my father believed and practiced this and my grandfather did. and so do i. to me, the notion of islam that is being evil is hurtful and vicious and violent is rejected. whether muslims are doing this or whether other people are interpreting islam in this matter. i think other people who are defining islam need to sit back and let muslims define themselves. whether they agree with this violence or not, that is the debate. i, for one, would totally reject this. >> pastor hunter, finish us off here, if you would. all of this has risen to the surface again over tensions of the proposed mosque at ground zero. not the only one facing opposition, a mosque in nashville, tennessee, one in temecula, california. you know, the administration, the bush administration, we know you're a spiritual counselor to president bush said again and again and again this is not a war against islam, this is a war against terrorists. is that message not getting through? >> no, it's not. matter of fact, it's a war against our own founding principals when we discriminate in the free expression of religion.